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Existing Facility With Older Bus Plugs – Change out to newer plugs?

May 21st, 2009 Comments off

We recently moved to an existing facility wired with older Bus Duct and are having trouble finding Bus Plugs, new or used in the sizes we need to feed our equipment.  Should we change out the duct to a new brand where the plugs are easier to find?

 

No, there may be a more cost effective solution.

Assuming you moved to a building where the volts match and the building can supply all of the amperes your machines need.

 

We have seen where new occupants have decided their best route is to rip out the bus duct and use pipe and wire to connect their machines.  This works out well when there are fewer machines to serve or when even a few are very large.  These machines might otherwise require a bus plug that is rated at or near the capacity of the entire duct.  Other times the location of a machine in relation to the bus plug is less direct than extending from a spare position in the buildings main distribution switchboard or panel board.

 

After you have considered how long you will use this facility you could look at relocating the existing duct to better suit your needs or you could uses tap boxes or a large bus plug, some pipe and wire and connect to additional lengths of ‘easy to find’ duct and Bus Plugs.  However, pipe and wire direct from the Main Distribution to you machine sometimes can be your best option.

Bus Plugs, New vs. Used

May 12th, 2009 Comments off

By Walter Powell, Professional Engineer, MIDWEST

 

Here we go again.  The question asked was “Why would I ever buy a used bus plug?”  It isn’t the question that caused a loud groan, it’s the distain with which the question was asked, by someone who had no idea what a new or used bus plug was.  In their defense, they were just ‘processing’ an order to “Get one of these!”  Actually, these days it is unusual to deal directly with an official purchasing agent or buyer. Usually we deal with electricians, engineers who actually work for a living (Sorry for the bias), and frequently a real live official maintenance supervisor who calls at 5:15 PM to order that bus plug that he has to have the next day.  He’s calling after 5 because that is the first time all day that he has had a chance to take a breath without being interrupted.  These are the people that really keep the wheels moving in a manufacturing plant.

 

“Why buy used instead of new?” The short answer is:  You wouldn’t buy a used bus plug unless you had to.  Why in the world would you buy used if you don’t need to?  Obviously there are exceptions, such as classic cars, books, wine, art… you get the idea.  But in the world of industry, decisions affecting the day-to-day operation just aren’t that simple.  Decisions have to be practical and frequently are based on the needs right now.  Not tomorrow or next week.  Get it done and move on.   So here is the litany to answer the question.

 

The “Positives” of buying a New Bus Plug:     Made with all new material; Full reliable life expectancy; Should be trouble free; Manufacturer’s new equipment warranty; No worn or deteriorated parts; Should operate per new product specifications; May have design improvements making it more reliable or safer; and It sure looks good.      

 

The “Negatives of buying a New Bus Plug:     Delivery time; May require a conversion kit to fit in place of the old or obsolete product; and Cost.

 

The “Positives” of buying a Used Bus Plug:     Immediate availability; Replacement for something obsolete, just no longer available new; Minimum down time with an exact replacement; and Cost.

 

The “Negatives” of buying a Used Bus Plug:     Deteriorated parts; Poor quality control of supplier; No mfg’s original warranty; shorter reliable life expectancy; and poor appearance.

 

So what does one recommend?  Try this!  If you can, buy new.  But if you can only get a used bus plug quick enough to take care of your problem? If you just can’t wait for a new bus plug, then MIDWEST, suggests you get a used bus plug from a company that properly reconditions the bus plugs and also performs standard quality control tests and performs special “performance tests” at full current and voltage. This is extremely important.  A used bus plug just purchased “as is” from a reseller or equipment list may be “as is, buyer beware.”  Ask exactly what the supplier does to the used bus plugs they sell.  

 

You might ask what makes us such an “Expert.”  Its experience, training, education, experience, and finally more experience.  You wouldn’t ask a police officer a tax question.  You would go to an accountant, someone you perceive to be an expert in his or her field.  And you wouldn’t ask an account to protect you from a thug. You would ask the expert at protecting people from thugs.  And you would base you perception of “who is an expert” on their training and experience, and their willingness to help.  So, when making a decision about new and used electrical bus plugs, you would want to go to an “expert.”  Go to the manufacturer for new bus plugs and go to the experts, such as MIDWEST, www.swgr.com, for reconditioned bus plugs.  One of the nice things about real experts, especially in our electrical world, they are always happy to help by just answering your questions.

Bus Plug Hit By Fork Truck

May 8th, 2009 Comments off

We received a question from Fred…Hi from Texas.  I have a problem and I’m looking for a blogger to help me, if possible.  We hit a 200 amp bus plug with a pallet being lifted by our fork truck.  Nothing happened, but it is crooked and I’m worried, because my experience is this stuff will go bad on Memorial Day, the 4th of July.  Just the way things seem to work out.  To check the damage to the bus plug we have to turn a line off and that can only be done on a weekend and that costs overtime, which is invisible these days.  Anybody out there with real experience that can tell me whether or not I should check this out.  I don’t know how bus plugs are made or how they attach the main line.  If I do shut the line down, what should I look for?  What would typically go wrong if you hit one of these things and it moves about 2 inches?  The pipe coming out the top looks okay, but I’m really concerned by how this thing connects to the hanging metal enclosure that runs the length of the room.  Anybody been through this?  Any ammo to take to my supervisor to justify the work?  And what should I look for.  Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks,  Fred Jenson

 

Answer:  Fred, here are the easy answers.  First, you need to check this out soon.  The main bus duct that this bus plug connects to, could fail with a catastrophic fault that could destroy the main bus duct and the bus plug and possibly get someone hurt.  Recommend to check it out at your first opportunity.  Do you have a spare?  Many electrical problems are actually just mechanical.  So shut her down, Lock it out, Tag it out, Check voltage and then have your best electrician and mechanic investigate the damage.  Take a good look at the connections between the old bus plug and the bus duct.  Be safe Walt