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Replace Bus Plugs Due to Failure, Not Just New Load

January 26th, 2011

Cutler Hammer CP2HD366 Bus Plugs For Sale by MIDWEST

Cutler Hammer CP2HD366 Bus Plugs For Sale by MIDWEST

Much of the demand for reconditioned and new surplus bus plugs is because the user has to replace bus plugs that are defective.  One of the worst things that happen is the bus plug operating mechanism breaks when you try to open or close it. It is very dangerous if the bus plug is half open or one pole opened and the other two are half closed yet. This type of failure is due to the lack of maintenance, specifically the lack of exercising the bus plug operating mechanism periodically. The other enemies are dirt, moisture, heat, and, as we have said many times, fork lifts.  Sometimes folks are very surprised that so many reconditioned bus plugs are used to replace damaged or defective bus plugs rather than just for additional load or expansion.

 

 

Federal Pacific LSP1432 Bus Plugs For Sale by MIDWEST

Federal Pacific LSP1432 Bus Plugs For Sale by MIDWEST

For every Cutler Hammer CP2HD366 bus plug purchased for an expansion project, we might also replace a Federal Pacific LSP1432SN bus plug because the customer’s existing bus plug failed to operate properly. When it comes to bus plugs, run to failure is the standard operating mode. The perception is they don’t need maintenance because the never do anything. They just sit on the bus duct. And that is true, but it is also the reason they eventually may fail to operate properly when needed.

 

 

The only real pattern may be the use of newer style replacement bus plugs for expansion projects than for replacement of defective equipment

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Finding Bus Plugs in White Space

January 18th, 2011

Bus Plug Square D PKA36200

Bus Plug Square D PKA36200

If you read the recent information on Facebook beating Myspace by managing in “white space,” rather than in a formal business management environment, you have a good idea how MIDWEST makes many decisions to improve its web site for our customers. We make so called guesses based on conversations and suggestions from our customers.  They tell us what they like. And in doing so, they are the white space between all the seasoned directives we get from the marketing professionals. The ‘world wide web’ is still exciting uncharted territory.  There are not many years of prior art.

 

In response to customer white space chatter, MIDWEST set up a web site specifically directed at those looking for buyers of bus plugs. Hence, the domain name www.busplugsbuyer.com. You see here the results of white space management. This specific target site makes it easier for those that have bus plugs to sell to find us in general. Of course, they could find MIDWEST specifically if they already knew we existed. But, for those that don’t know who MIDWEST is, they might make a general search for buyers of bus plugs. Then go from the general to the more specific. Specifically, whether a GE General Electric bus plugs, Square D bus plugs, Cutler Hammer bus plugs, ITE Bus Plugs, or Federal Pacific bus plugs, it doesn’t make a difference.  According to our customers, they would first search for a bus plug buyer and then go from there. This is all very simple from the seller’s point of view.

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When Bus Plugs Start to Fail Frequently

January 10th, 2011

Square D PQ3206 Bus Plug

Square D PQ3206 Bus Plug

It is not unusual for MIDWEST to get a call because a company is having numerous problems with their old bus plugs. Things go along okay for years and then one year they have one failure after another. It seems to make no difference who the manufacturer is. They could be old Square D bus plugs, GE General Electric bus plugs, Westinghouse bus plugs, Cutler Hammer bus plugs or ITE bus plugs. The problem seems not to care who the manufacturer is.  When this pattern appears, it is usually because a chronic mechanical or environmental problem has been present for many years and has been getting progressively worse. Soon or later the mechanical problem or contaminate reaches a critical stage and the bus plugs collectively start to fail. Usually the failure seems to be caused by overheating, or by mechanical failure between the bus duct and bus plugs, or by moisture.  The problem isn’t just moisture or dirt. It’s the accumulation of dirt over many years or the presence of moisture over many years. This means there is a chronic condition causing you to replace bus plugs. One typically doesn’t have to suddenly replace Square D bus plugs or replace Cutler Hammer bus plugs because of normal operating conditions. And replacing Westinghouse bus plugs one after the other without addressing the root cause, will not make the problem go away.  So if you find yourself having to repair or replace numerous bus plugs, look for a chronic cause. If you just don’t find something, then look for a recent acute change that would affect all the bus plugs.

 

 

 

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Need a Square D PQ3620G NOW

December 16th, 2010

PQ3620G Square D Bus Plug For Sale

PQ3620G Square D Bus Plug For Sale

Sometimes you couldn’t write the script for the strange things that happen in the real world.  At least in our world of reconditioning old used bus plugs and selling them to folks that tell us they couldn’t tell the difference from new.  The technical world seems so boring to outsiders, but MIDWEST has its share of action. For example, a large food processing facility called at 6:15 PM on a Monday night, in a screaming panic, because they needed a replacement 200 amp bus plug and they needed it right away. They couldn’t get a new one immediately and the electrical suppliers for most of the US were already closed for the day.  The cracking in his voice changed to audible relief when we told him we had a fully reconditioned Square D PQ3620G bus plug, boxed and ready for shipping pickup. It was set to go to another customer, but it was part of an order for over 100 bus plugs and there was no urgency for it to ship. It was a shipping scramble but the food processing plant had their like new Square D bus plug the next morning. What’s the chance MIDWEST would have a Square D PQ3620G bus plug sitting at the shipping dock, ready to go, and someone calls and needs it “right now.”  The answer to that question is that it’s much more common than one would ever guess. It seems improbable, but it happens fairly often. The odds may be higher because of the number of bus plugs, transformers and circuit breakers we ship.  But it’s always a nice thrill for MIDWEST to defy the odds. And it gives the Engineers something to argue about, the odds versus reality.

 

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Infrared Scanning Bus Plugs when You Can Not Open the Cover

December 10th, 2010

General Electric AC323R Bus Plug Available from MIDWEST

General Electric AC323R Bus Plug Available from MIDWEST

Sometimes you just can not safely perform an electrical maintenance service per the written specification. For example, in today’s world of real concern for arc flash hazards, safely opening the cover of an energized bus plug, to perform an Infrared Scan, may not be possible. It may not be safely justified because of the high risk. So one argument is whether or not one can actually tell if a bus plug is hot because of overloading or because of a poor connection that is overheating. Is it a load problem or a connection problem?  Is there a problem at all?

 

 

 

 

Because our Thermographers are all required to work on bus plugs in our switchgear shop, they are very familiar with the interior of most bus plugs. They may have totally reconditioned a specific Square D or Bull Dog 100 amp bus plug. Or they may have repaired many ITE, GE General Electric or Cutler Hammer 60 amp bus plugs. Therefore they know where the interior switch or breaker is located. They may know exactly where the conductors connect to the bus plug feeder terminals.  This knowledge and experience is a big advantage, but the Infrared task is still difficult. The indications of overheating, whether load or connection related, may be very subtle because the interior heat must be re-emitted by the bus plug enclosure, greatly dampening the heat pattern.

 

Again, knowledge of the bus plug allows the Thermographer to turn art into science, at least to some degree. The thermographer may compare a suspect old bus plug to an identical bus plug nearby. Comparing the feeder conduit helps identify the possible ampacity of an old bus plug.  Comparing the heat pattern of the different plane surfaces of a suspect old or new Cutler Hammer or Square D bus plug may give additional information to help determine the existence and cause of heating.

 

Our thermographers have special safe ammeters to measure the load on a bus plug feeder, where practical and safe. Knowing the actual load, say on a feeder from an old Federal Pacific bus plug, is extremely helpful in determining if the suspected heating is load related or connection related. It is extremely difficult, if even possible, to determine the presence of overheating, much less the cause, by just looking at one plane of the energized bus plug with even a very sensitive Infrared Scanner.

 

It is the combination of the Thermographer’s experience and equipment knowledge that makes scanning energized bus plugs still very useful.  This same experience and knowledge aid in determining the possible cause of a suspected problem manifested by heat.

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Bus Plug Connection or Load Problem Using Infrared

November 24th, 2010

MIDWEST frequently is asked how we can tell if an overheating problem in an electrical bus plug, found using Infrared Thermography, is a connection problem or a load problem. Especially when the bus plug cover can not safely be opened.  Overheating from a load problem usually displays a paintbrush effect on the bus plug enclosure. Large and continuous areas may display a higher temperature pattern. Looking at the electrical bus plug from different angles may still display a wide pattern of overheating and no indication of a spot source. This is difficult, even for an experienced Thermographer. MIDWEST’s Thermographers have the advantage of extensive training and experience reconditioning, maintaining, repairing and testing bus plugs in our switchgear shop. With this experience, they know the location of the internal components of the various bus plugs, whether Square D, Cutler Hammer, GE General Electric, Westinghouse, ITE Bulldog, or Federal Pacific. The combination of this knowledge and experience and their understanding of Infrared Thermography, gives them the tools they need to best differentiate between overheating due to load and overheating due to a poor connection or contact.

 

A connection problem may display a more localized heat pattern that sometimes can be confirmed by Infrared Scanning the bus plug from different angles.  The heat pattern at each angle may confirm the heat is coming from the same somewhat specific location.  With the cover closed, it is very difficult to identify the exact location. It might be the fuse clip or the lug for a feeder cable or the switch or breaker contact.

 

Finally, when possible, measuring the load on the bus plug feeder, when safe, and comparing it to the bus plug rating can help validate whether the problem is load or connection. Only when safe, the bus plug cover may be opened and an accurate scan of the inside of the bus plug performed.  It is not always possible to determine the exact cause of overheating in a bus plug, but these are some of the tools that increase our success.

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Broken Handle Bus Plug

November 10th, 2010

XLVB322 ITE Bus Plug

XLVB322 ITE Bus Plug

Once in a while MIDWEST gets phone calls that are just scary.  For example, a maintenance electrician called to ask what he should do. He needed to turn power off to a production machine. It was fed directly from an old bus plug. But the bus plug handle was broken so he couldn’t switch the bus plug. He tried using a vice grip, but the whole bus plug was moving and it still would not turn off. Production said they could not turn off the whole line just for one lousy switch. He said the bus plug was obsolete and he just wanted to get it out of there. It was kind of hanging at an angle and the pipe for the feeder going out the top was pulled out. He thought he and another guy could use a lift and pull it off live. He thought that might be okay because they would make sure there was no load on it.  He said he had worked on broken bus plugs before.

 

 

 

This man was in a big jam between making a bad decision and doing what his boss wanted. He needed help. Our answer was simple and we told him we would send a letter if he needed. There was danger of serious injury or death if they tried to remove that live bus plug from a live bus duct. The bus duct would have to be turned off. The danger of shock hazard and arc blast hazard was too great under the circumstances. In addition, the situational danger was extreme because they would be working from a platform lift with no way to escaped from shock or arc blast. Plus they could be knocked right off the platform. And they were in a position that no one could immediately help them.

 

We were sure his boss did not fully understand the level of danger and just saw the problem as simply mechanical. We have been through this before. Once everyone understands how dangerous it is, they work out a safe solution, like turn the power off on third shift.

 

The big danger is beginning to think you can do something that you know is too dangerous. Sometimes, the longer you think about it, the more you convince yourself that maybe this time it would be okay. You’ll just be careful. When you start that line of thought, you just have to stop yourself.

 

If you know there is a danger of serious injury or death, you are not allowed to do it.

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Obsolete Bus Plug with Deadly Hot Feeder

November 1st, 2010

Here’s another odd but very dangerous circumstance that MIDWEST ran into during the field data collection for an Arc Flash Hazard analysis.  The customer had an old Square D bus duct run in the oldest part of their plant. It was actually a complex made up of several buildings, the oldest being a wood structure going back seventy years.  They had mostly Square D and General Electric bus duct and bus plugs, and a small run of ITE.  The old part of the plant was used for storage.  All the manufacturing equipment had long ago been removed. There were very few Square D bus plugs still being used in the bus duct in this area. There were maybe a dozen bus plugs that were still installed but no longer in use. In most cases, the pipe and wire feeder had been removed. But we found one 100 amp bus plug, no longer used, had a conduit going into a small room full of junk. We had been told the bus plug was off and the fuses probably removed. They didn’t know where the conduit went. When we checked, and we always check, we found the bus plug closed and hot, the feeder energized. The electrician was pretty surprised. We traced the conduit to a back small storage area, dark, no lighting, where it terminated in a 6 by 6 junction box on the wall right next to the door. This circuit was “deadly hot” because the cover was missing and the conductors were sticking out of the box, wrapped with the frayed remains of old cloth type tape. This was a deadly accident just waiting to happen.  When MIDWEST recommended turning off the old bus plug; removing the fuses; and removing the conductors and conduit from the bus plug, they balked. Thought just turning it off was okay. But, since this was an abandoned circuit, not to be used again, we always recommend removing it. We consider this a safe work practice that eliminates the possibility of something “deadly hot” injuring or killing someone in the future.

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Bus Plugs the Most Colorful Electrical Equipment

October 8th, 2010

MIDWEST was asked what electrical equipment was the most colorful.  Certainly a strange question, But the answer may seem even stranger.  The most colorful equipment is electrical bus duct and bus plugs. We’ve seen a thousand manufacturing plants over the years and many, especially the older ones, have painted their old electrical bus duct and bus plugs specific colors to identify the specific electrical system or the specific load being fed. Here are a few examples.  One plant painted the 480 volt bus duct and bus plugs blue and painted all their old 240 volt system orange.  It would be hard to mix these systems up. Another plant, a huge facility with over a thousand old Square D and Westinghouse bus plugs, painted everything black. It was pretty impressive, until you tried to read some of the labels on the obsolete bus plugs. Some facilities will paint a particular bus run a specific color to identify it as belonging to a specific manufacturing process. They want to separate the process load from general building load.  Blue seems to be the choice of colors for equipment feeding specific processes or manufacturing cells.  Critical processes may use red.  Some may paint their GE General Electric bus plugs one color and the Cutler Hammer or Westinghouse bus plugs a different color. And then there are those facilities that had a color code many years ago, but have added other manufacturers’ equipment since then.  And now you find different old colored bus plugs on the same bus duct with plain grey new bus plugs.  We have seen some pretty strange stuff. There are some facilities that were former manufacturing plants that had their own electrical engineering staff and maintenance electricians working all three shifts. Everything was well maintained. Things were labeled. Equipment, including old and new bus duct and bus plugs, were maintained and repaired or replaced as needed. They even had up to date electrical drawings. Those were the days.  Now some of those same facilities are multiple occupancy buildings with light assembly, storage, office space and, too frequently, abandoned space. And the colorful electrical distribution systems all seem to have become one color. We’ll call it sad grey. 

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Bus Plug Clearance Safety

September 24th, 2010

Square D Bus Plugs Cat. No. PQ4620

Square D Bus Plugs Cat. No. PQ4620

We ran across blogging information about safe clearances for bus plugs. There was interest in the correct code requirements for various size bus plugs, 2000 amp bus plugs to 400 amp bus plugs to 60 amp bus plugs. Sometimes code requirements are the only hammer the electrician may have to force others to be safe. We’ve dealt with used, obsolete, and new bus plugs for decades and we have one big rule for experienced electrical personal who work around this stuff for a living. “If it seems unsafe, it is unsafe.”  As far as inexperienced or non electrical folks, stay away from electrical power bus plugs. They are not your friend.

 

 

 

Would it make sense to tell an experienced electrician, who feels that a 200 amp Square D bus plug is unsafe to fool with, that he actually would be safe just because it meets code. Nonsense. We would trust the extra caution of experience, over code, any day, especially when the code is defined as a minimum safety standard.  Having said this, we would also caution against listening to the type of experience that says something is safe, even though it does not meet code, just because the experienced person has done it many time before and nothing ever happed.  Experience or not, just don’t work on or around anybody’s bus plugs hot. Whether Square D, Cutler Hammer, GE General Electric, or Siemens bus plugs, do not work on bus plugs energized.

 

Sometimes the criticism of the location of electrical bus duct and bus plugs is heaped on the electrical contractor that installed it. Having worked in electrical contracting in a past life and worked in manufacturing plants for decades, we often find the electrical bus duct and bus plugs are ignored when other equipment is installed near them.  Space is a premium, so newly installed pipe or duct or hangers can go only a foot or two from the bus duct or plug.  And after 20 years, there isn’t enough room left for an electrician to safely work around bus duct or plugs, regardless of code or experience.  So don’t! 

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